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Can I claim partner's point who's occupation is in STSOL whereas mine is in MLTSSL

Yani1127

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Update:

So my sister who is in VIC was able to call DIBP today and they said that I am ineligible to claim for partner points. My skill and my partner's skill should be in the same skilled occupation list. They told me to update my EOI and my nomination application with the state which I did. Hope that helps.
 

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Thanks for letting everyone know. So, it is clear that if the main applicant is in STSOL, he cannot claim points for a partner who is in MLTSSL. This actually makes sense, that's for the confirmation.

I am still interested to know if the opposite is possible or not, e.g. the main applicant in MLTSSL, the partner is STSOL, and they are applying in subclass 190.
 

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I think it works both ways. One has to be in the same skilled occupation list as the other to be able to claim partner points. And I believe my sister specified that I am applying for subclass 190, but they still said that I'm ineligible to claim for partner points.
 

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I think someone has not through through while framing the rules of partner points yet.
3 Months back the logic of 'Same List' made sense as SOL was part of CSOL.

and people with codes in SOL have claimed points with partners in CSOL, as SOL was part of CSOL.

Logically speaking if my STSOL skill is required in the state and I am bring a partner who is with a MLTSSL skill(which is in demand in the entire country) why am I not able to claim partner points?
 

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Hey did you get an answer to your question? I am on the same page. I am a Software Tester (STSOL) and my partner is ICT Business Analyst (MLTSSL) and I claimed for partner points in EOI and is already invited to apply for state nomination in VIC? Hopefully you got an answer to this.

Hey, since you mentioned you were already invited by Vic. Are they canceling your invite because now the points will decrease?
What are your next steps, please share as I am also expecting an invite from Vic. Thanks!
 

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I think someone has not through through while framing the rules of partner points yet.
3 Months back the logic of 'Same List' made sense as SOL was part of CSOL.

and people with codes in SOL have claimed points with partners in CSOL, as SOL was part of CSOL.

Logically speaking if my STSOL skill is required in the state and I am bring a partner who is with a MLTSSL skill(which is in demand in the entire country) why am I not able to claim partner points?
That was my initial thought as well.
However, one difference is, that time CSOL had all the occupations of SOL whereas now MLTSSL ans STSOL are exclusive.
 

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That was my initial thought as well.
However, one difference is, that time CSOL had all the occupations of SOL whereas now MLTSSL ans STSOL are exclusive.

Yup, I believe they updated the lists, but didn't quite think through the language of partner points rules.
Its quite frustrating, explaining this confusion to someone is also a task :/
 

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Hi
Thanks for the update. Do you have an official evidence of this case. Please provide the link of that. I see in dibp webpage that both occupations must be in the same list. I am so confused with this.

https://www.border.gov.au/visas/supporting/Pages/skilled/partner-skills-documents.aspx

Where it says

  • had a suitable skills assessment from the relevant assessing authority for their nominated skilled occupation. Your partner’s nominated skilled occupation must be on the same skilled occupations list as your nominated skilled occupation.
The above statement is meant for both the list cumulatively.
 

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https://www.border.gov.au/visas/supporting/Pages/skilled/partner-skills-documents.aspx

Where it says

  • had a suitable skills assessment from the relevant assessing authority for their nominated skilled occupation. Your partner’s nominated skilled occupation must be on the same skilled occupations list as your nominated skilled occupation.
The above statement is meant for both the list cumulatively.

Since her occupation in stsol, it means that I am eligible to claim partner point in 189 too, or this point is only possible for 190?
 

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Hello,

I am planning to apply PR visa for Australia under 189 and 190 Visa. I wish to claim 5 points on behalf of my wife under Partner points.
On homeaffairs website I found the list of skills that are eligible for applying visa.

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/trav...illed-occupations-lists/combined-stsol-mltssl

As per the list mentioned in the above website, My Skill - Software Engineer(ANZSCO - 261313) and Wife Skill - Biotechnologist (ANZSCO -234514). Beside both of the skills its written as MLTSSL.
Can you please let me know as both of the Skill fall under MLTSSL, can I claim 5 points once both of our skills are assessed positively?

Also in the below URL Link I am unable to find my Wife's Skill in neither of the list for MLTSSL, STSOL, ROL. So I am really confused which list should I refer to for confirmation. Can you please help.
https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2018L00299

@MysticRiver Please Help :)

Regards
KumarD
 

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@KumarD
Hi,
The research which you've done is almost on the correct path, but one point was confusing I believe. The Combined Skills list provides the following as you've seen already.
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I agree that statement regarding the Partner Skills to be on the same List" is ambiguous, since it says MLTSSL for both your occupations. But one thing which lies unnoticed is that the list of visa subclasses applicable for the occupation. As for the biotechnologist, we have the SC 186, 407 and TSS (M) as mentioned above whereas for Software Engineer, the Subclasses are as given.
1527304692193.png


Furthermore, the MLTSSL seems to be varying corresponding to the subclass opted. Through the below link, we can check the legislative instruments for each subclass separately and it shows differences in the MLTSSL under each subclass.
List of legislative instruments

@MysticRiver does this imply that the occupations like biotechnologist can be considered in MLTSSL only for the above mentioned subclasses?
 
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@KumarD
Hi,
The research which you've done is almost on the correct path, but one point was confusing I believe. The Combined Skills list provides the following as you've seen already.
View attachment 2070

I agree that statement regarding the Partner Skills to be on the same List" is ambiguous, since it says MLTSSL for both your occupations. But one thing which lies unnoticed is that the list of visa subclasses applicable for the occupation. As for the biotechnologist, we have the SC 186, 407 and TSS (M) as mentioned above whereas for Software Engineer, the Subclasses are as given.
View attachment 2071

Furthermore, the MLTSSL seems to be varying corresponding to the subclass opted. Through the below link, we can check the legislative instruments for each subclass separately and it shows differences in the MLTSSL under each subclass.
List of legislative instruments

@MysticRiver does this imply that the occupations like biotechnologist can be considered in MLTSSL only for the above mentioned subclasses?


Thanks @Dileep for your prompt reply.

As you correctly highlighted my Wife's skill though its present under MLTSSL list but the eligible subclass as mentioned below are 186,407,TSS(M).
View attachment 2070

Does that mean that I am not eligible to get her partner points?
As I am the Primary Applicant and my Skill is in the same MLTSSL list and also eligible for subclass 189 and 190, can't I mention my wife as additional member and get the partner skill 5 point? Does her skill also need to be in the same subclass of 189/190 to claim partner skill points? Really Confused.

Based on all your comments I am planning to submit the skill assessment for my wife, if only I can get her 5 points.

Regards
KumarD
 

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As I am the Primary Applicant and my Skill is in the same MLTSSL list and also eligible for subclass 189 and 190, can't I mention my wife as additional member and get the partner skill 5 point?
To be true, I'm also confused by these differences in the MLTSSL under separate subclasses. I was under the impression that the MLTSSL was fixed for all the subclasses, but a little research instigated by your query has changed that approach.

I'd prefer to wait for some more comments on the same, (especially @MysticRiver ) or even from some who have successfully claimed partner points recently.
 
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There have been two MLTSSL, even before this combined list was published (we have several threads which discussed this). One MLTSSL was for point-tested skilled migration, and another was for work visas like 457/186 etc. It was an unnecessary complication created by DIBP, they could easily rename one of the lists.

Anyway, back to the point, I don't think you can claim partner's point because, though both of your occupations are on MLTSSL, those two MLTSSLs are not the same list, never had been.
 
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@KumarD
Hi,
The research which you've done is almost on the correct path, but one point was confusing I believe. The Combined Skills list provides the following as you've seen already.
View attachment 2070

I agree that statement regarding the Partner Skills to be on the same List" is ambiguous, since it says MLTSSL for both your occupations. But one thing which lies unnoticed is that the list of visa subclasses applicable for the occupation. As for the biotechnologist, we have the SC 186, 407 and TSS (M) as mentioned above whereas for Software Engineer, the Subclasses are as given.
View attachment 2071

Furthermore, the MLTSSL seems to be varying corresponding to the subclass opted. Through the below link, we can check the legislative instruments for each subclass separately and it shows differences in the MLTSSL under each subclass.
List of legislative instruments

@MysticRiver does this imply that the occupations like biotechnologist can be considered in MLTSSL only for the above mentioned subclasses?


Hi @Dileep and @MysticRiver,

If my skillset falls under 262112 ICT Security specialist and my wife's skillset falls under 263111, will I be able to consider 5 extra points as it seems both the skillset under MLTSSL list?

Raj
 
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