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Hello guys,

I have a question.

I applied for EA assessment last year and got negative response as 2 of my career episodes were plagiarized as per them and I was banned for 12 months and next month I will be applicable for reassessment. So, I am writing 2 new career episodes based on my work experience and I will keep 1 career episode same as it was completely original based on work experience. I want to know if I can resubmit 2 new and 1 same career episode.

Thanks in advance.
 

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Hello guys,

I have a question.

I applied for EA assessment last year and got a negative response as 2 of my career episodes were plagiarized as per them and I was banned for 12 months and next month I will be applicable for reassessment. So, I am writing 2 new career episodes based on my work experience and I will keep 1 career episode the same as it was completely original based on work experience. I want to know if I can resubmit 2 new and 1 same career episode.

Thanks in advance.


Hi bro
Believe me,
u have to write all 3 new career episode, if u r writing same carer episode check for plagarism, it shud be zerp percent ,, use writecheck or turnitin
 

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So, I am writing 2 new career episodes based on my work experience and I will keep 1 career episode same as it was completely original based on work experience. I want to know if I can resubmit 2 new and 1 same career episode.
Only if you are confident that the unchanged career episode is original and won't be any plagiarism issue.
 

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Hi

As far as I understood EA takes plagiarism very strictly and if they found out that your original project report contains some
sections which were plagiarized, then you will be in trouble.

On the other hand if you took some references, then i think, it will not be an issue, they just emphasize that your CE's should be your original work and has to be written in your own words.

Recently I submitted my explanation to EA against the same reply of high similarities and I did submitted my explanation with some documents to prove the authenticity of my work and i got a reply from them that some of my documents were in Hindi, so i needed to modify my letter accordingly. Actually I had two Awards certificates in Hindi so i modified my explanation and submitted again.

Now I am again waiting for there reply.
But they didn't mentioned anything about my explanation so i am still not sure about the outcome.
Just got reply from EA they rejected my application stating one or more CE are copied.
I did submitted my explanation with all the documents for proof. I don't know what went wrong. But they have not banned me instey they have asked if I am dissatisfied I can submit for informal review.
Is it advisable to go for review or it's better for reassessment with comply new episodes?
And will they again charge me the full fee as I applied in fast track?
I am so confused and frustrated as all the episodes were mine and still I got rejected for plagiarism.

I will be losing 5 points of age on 23 September, my current score is 80.
Can anyone help me out?

What should I do now, can I submit fresh episodes ASAP.
 

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Is it advisable to go for review or it's better for reassessment with comply new episodes?
Tough to comment without knowing why they did not accept your explanation.

And will they again charge me the full fee as I applied in fast track?
I believe so.
 

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I will be losing 5 points of age on 23 September, my current score is 80.
Can anyone help me out?

What should I do now, can I submit fresh episodes ASAP.
Sorry to hear that mate! I would rather recommend you to take good time to prepare new CDR's and then submit, dont do this is in a hurry just to save 5 points you might be putting risk on 15 points. I know how important 5 points can be sometimes but remember, here you are working to achieve 15 points. Best of luck mate!
 
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Sorry to hear that mate! I would rather recommend you to take good time to prepare new CDR's and then submit, dont do this is in a hurry just to save 5 points you might be putting risk on 15 points. I know how important 5 points can be sometimes but remember, here you are working to achieve 15 points. Best of luck mate!
My agent is advising me to go for an informal review, but it will again take 2 months time and that too no guarantee of getting positive result. Also i found that the assessor of review can also impose a ban for 12 months if he is not satisfied. Right now there is no ban and i can apply fresh assessment application. What do you guys suggest? I am confused...
 

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My agent is advising me to go for an informal review, but it will again take 2 months time and that too no guarantee of getting positive result. Also i found that the assessor of review can also impose a ban for 12 months if he is not satisfied. Right now there is no ban and i can apply fresh assessment application. What do you guys suggest? I am confused...
Mate I would suggest you to have a proper look at what you have submitted and how sure you are on those documents and if you are 200% sure that you can fight back then consider going for a review, But I had hardly heard any case getting positive after review may be other members have heard but for me I never came across. You are in a best position to let yourself know how strongly you can present your case orelse prepare good CDR's this time and apply again.
 
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Mate I would suggest you to have a proper look at what you have submitted and how sure you are on those documents and if you are 200% sure that you can fight back then consider going for a review, But I had hardly heard any case getting positive after review may be other members have heard but for me I never came across. You are in a best position to let yourself know how strongly you can present your case orelse prepare good CDR's this time and apply again.
Thanks mate,
Can you please advise me on where to check my submitted documents for plagiarism check, so that If there are any issues i will not repeat them again.
As my assessor did not mention any particular Career Episode i will check all my three episodes and then will go for a fresh application. Is there any provision for waiving off the fee for second time assessment?

Thanks buddy in advance
 

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Thanks mate,
Can you please advise me on where to check my submitted documents for plagiarism check, so that If there are any issues i will not repeat them again.
As my assessor did not mention any particular Career Episode i will check all my three episodes and then will go for a fresh application. Is there any provision for waiving off the fee for second time assessment?

Thanks buddy in advance
For plagiarism turnitin is best source and what I heard is that even EA uses the same platform, Usually it will show the copy content source so if it shows as EA then you can assume that its your work which you have submitted. However when you prepare the new ones make sure you check with this and be 100% sure that your cdr's are upto the mark. Its good that they have not put a ban and you have another chance to prove your self... Best of Luck mate everything will be sorted out dont worry just be confident and put all your efforts.
 
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For plagiarism turnitin is best source and what I heard is that even EA uses the same platform, Usually it will show the copy content source so if it shows as EA then you can assume that its your work which you have submitted. However when you prepare the new ones make sure you check with this and be 100% sure that your cdr's are upto the mark. Its good that they have not put a ban and you have another chance to prove your self... Best of Luck mate everything will be sorted out dont worry just be confident and put all your efforts.
I did checked my previous episodes it seems they have saved a copy of my episodes as it is showing 100% for all three episodes along with my name in it. but other than that the maximum similarity shown was 16 % and then there were 10 % 4 % etc etc and all these were in EA database only for external sources not more than 3 % similarity found. so now i am wondering what is the cut off similarity % for getting your CDR through? Also i need to prepare completely new episodes and i saw that the language has to be unique otherwise it catches even if you have put two same words together in comparison with all other submitted episodes to EA.

thanks in advance buddy
 

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I did checked my previous episodes it seems they have saved a copy of my episodes as it is showing 100% for all three episodes along with my name in it. but other than that the maximum similarity shown was 16 % and then there were 10 % 4 % etc etc and all these were in EA database only for external sources not more than 3 % similarity found. so now i am wondering what is the cut off similarity % for getting your CDR through? Also i need to prepare completely new episodes and i saw that the language has to be unique otherwise it catches even if you have put two same words together in comparison with all other submitted episodes to EA.

thanks in advance buddy
I dont think there is anything like cut off % for similarities, But what I have understood is like they dont feel good when something is copied from career episodes submitted to them. Did you discuss this with you agent like the apart from your submission there is only 3 % similarity? I hope they did not misunderstood with your own work. Yes I have went through this and I have used my same career episode for the second time with completely different words and ideas. Never use the same words sentences if you want to use the idea you can use the idea but make sure you change the formation of the sentence.
 
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I dont think there is anything like cut off % for similarities, But what I have understood is like they dont feel good when something is copied from career episodes submitted to them. Did you discuss this with you agent like the apart from your submission there is only 3 % similarity? I hope they did not misunderstood with your own work. Yes I have went through this and I have used my same career episode for the second time with completely different words and ideas. Never use the same words sentences if you want to use the idea you can use the idea but make sure you change the formation of the sentence.
Did it worked? I mean using the same career episode. Cuz they already have stored my submitted episodes as I have checked in Turnitin and it's showing 100% similarity with what i submitted even my name and date of submission are matching.
 

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I dont think there is anything like cut off % for similarities, But what I have understood is like they dont feel good when something is copied from career episodes submitted to them. Did you discuss this with you agent like the apart from your submission there is only 3 % similarity? I hope they did not misunderstood with your own work. Yes I have went through this and I have used my same career episode for the second time with completely different words and ideas. Never use the same words sentences if you want to use the idea you can use the idea but make sure you change the formation of the sentence.
Did it worked? I mean using the same episodes again. As far as i have checked on turnitin they already have a stored copy of my submitted career episodes.
 

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Did it worked? I mean using the same episodes again. As far as i have checked on turnitin they already have a stored copy of my submitted career episodes.
Yes it did worked, I changed almost everything in the project. Just kept the main details as it is. change the technical difficulties part, what creative work you did and all. But you should always remember that you have already provided some details to them so that should not oppose your claims this time. You should prepare the new one in a manner that should suffice the earlier one as well as the new one.
 
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that project was from professional experience so i was having lots of things to share, but I guess for an academic project you are limited with the content. So you need to analyse few things before proceeding with the old CE.
 
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that project was from professional experience so i was having lots of things to share, but I guess for an academic project you are limited with the content. So you need to analyse few things before proceeding with the old CE.
Mine were also from professional experiences. So i think i can at least repeat one of the episode which was very recent. Other were pretty old, and i will prepare new ones.
 

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Yeah you can do that... See they will check wht info is matching with your work and if that work is matching with your work which was submitted earlier then that wont be an issue. But make sure that you change all the statements no matter the meaning of the sentence is same but change the structure of the sentence.
 
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Dear Seniors,

I need advise that i had applied earlier and got rejected last year and got a letter of rejection on 17th October. All though i submitted all the required details but i believe they didn't consider it.

However, i am reapplying and would like to know that do i need to only submit all three new CDR's or would need to submit any other thing too.
also i have to wait for the 17th October 2019 to reapply. also any suggestion i should take care of for my reapplication.
 

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Dear Seniors,

I need advise that i had applied earlier and got rejected last year and got a letter of rejection on 17th October. All though i submitted all the required details but i believe they didn't consider it.

However, i am reapplying and would like to know that do i need to only submit all three new CDR's or would need to submit any other thing too.
also i have to wait for the 17th October 2019 to reapply. also any suggestion i should take care of for my reapplication.
Hello,
Did they banned you for 12 months? If not, you can apply anytime.
It will be a fresh application and you will need to submit all the documents again.
 
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