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2017-2018 Claiming points for partner skills

MysticRiver

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Depends on two things:
1) What are the individual scores of each applicant
2) Which subclass/state are you planning to apply.
 
Hi
My wife is nursing and she has total 60 points ( principle applicant for pr)and I am overseas physio. I have interim certificate provided by Australian physiotherapy council(got it after eligibility assessments) and I have ielts 7 on each band can i get extra 5 point.
In the interim certificate it has been written as

This Interim Certificate is issued to acknowledge that the candidatehas been assessed as an overseas-qualified physiotherapist.
The candidate is eligible to undertake the Australian Physiotherapy Council assessment process for overseas physiotherapists.

If this certificate is used to obtain registration as a physiotherapist in Australia, it is the responsibility of the candidate to advise the Physiotherapy Board of Australia if the Interim Certificate expires or is cancelled.
Hi, I have same problem..did you claim 5 points for your wife?
 

mohsinciddiki

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Hi,

I am planning to apply for Australian PR under the classification
Skilled Independent visa (subclass 189)

My wife is also having the same educational and professional background but she has just 2 years of experience from 2014-2016.

Can I claim my partner skills points keeping her 2 years of experience on record?

Thanks in advance.
What is the occupation
 
MSA
2018-08-02
Skill
261111
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189/190
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75/80
EOI
2018-08-17
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2018-11-11
Inv.
2018-11-11
App.
2018-12-22
CO
2019-03-27
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2019-02-23
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2019-02-18
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2019-06-03
IED
2020-02-20
Hi,

I am trying to apply for Australian PR. My wife is an English Teacher back home under Ministry of education for more than 12 years. She has Masters in "English as an International Language" from one of the universities in Thailand. Basically she falls under TESOL.
I am wondering if she could assist me with some points through her skill, but doubtful whether TESOL demands her work experience to be onshore or offshore. She only taught in our home country.

If she is eligible to give me some points then we want to proceed with her skill assessment.

Thank you,
 

MysticRiver

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doubtful whether TESOL demands her work experience to be onshore
Haven't seen such criteria before. This is what VETASSESS says

VETASSESS said:
To be assessed positively for this occupation, applicants must hold at least a Bachelor degree in the relevant discipline, i.e. TESOL or English as a Second Language Teaching. This is the study of theories, methods and practice of teaching English to those whose first language is other than English, including teaching children in school settings and teaching adults and children in other settings (ASCED). Highly relevant fields of study would include a major focus in pedagogical knowledge (the knowledge of teaching and learning) supported by content knowledge (how language works). Qualifications must be in Education or Pedagogy with a focus on training to be a teacher to speakers of other languages and include subjects such as TESOL / English Language Teaching / Modern Language Teaching / Teaching a Second Language.
 

King M

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Hi, Can someone enlighten me the rationale why claiming for partner skills point has a criterion that both occupations should be under the same list? My occupation is under MLTSSL while my wife's under STSOL. By right, if a state is looking for both occupations and have valid skill assessment, this should be already enough. However, this is not the case. Because of that criterion, i won't be able to claim for additional points.
 

mohsinciddiki

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Hi, Can someone enlighten me the rationale why claiming for partner skills point has a criterion that both occupations should be under the same list? My occupation is under MLTSSL while my wife's under STSOL. By right, if a state is looking for both occupations and have valid skill assessment, this should be already enough. However, this is not the case. Because of that criterion, i won't be able to claim for additional points.
This is the rule set by DHA so cannot be challenged
 
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2019-02-23
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2019-02-18
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abhi9.b2

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Hi Team,

I have below queries for the point "had a skilled occupation from the relevant Skilled Occupation List, that is their partner's nominated occupation must be on the same Skilled Occupation List as the partner's nominated occupation" while claiming partner points.

My Wife has ACS assessment for ,
Software Engineer - 261313

I have ACS assessment
Software Tester - 261314

We both have 5 points for English.

But, while applying for EOI, 5 points for partner skills were not given for 189, however it was given for 190. I have attached the screenshots as well.
 

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Divyesh

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Hi Team,

I have below queries for the point "had a skilled occupation from the relevant Skilled Occupation List, that is their partner's nominated occupation must be on the same Skilled Occupation List as the partner's nominated occupation" while claiming partner points.

My Wife has ACS assessment for ,
Software Engineer - 261313

I have ACS assessment
Software Tester - 261314

We both have 5 points for English.

But, while applying for EOI, 5 points for partner skills were not given for 189, however it was given for 190. I have attached the screenshots as well.
That's correct!!

Because Software engineer falls in the category of MTSOL and Tester in STSOL, means both occupations do not fall under same SOL.

Hence, you will get 5 points only for 190 and not for 189
 
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Nitin Chauhan

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Hi,
I have recently received my ACS assessment report, they have not considered my current employer's experience saying insufficient details provided I am chasing them on it. I will be the dependent applicant for 189 visa and as per my current ACS evaluation it's considering my experience (current experience excluded) as 3.9 Years and it's in the same ANZSCO category i.e Software Engineer 261313.
As far as I am aware, dependent's work experience adds no value and I can claim 5 points with my current ACS (IELTS already done) ?
Also if my current experience is not considered, it will not have any impact on my overall application ?
 

mohsinciddiki

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Hi,
I have recently received my ACS assessment report, they have not considered my current employer's experience saying insufficient details provided I am chasing them on it. I will be the dependent applicant for 189 visa and as per my current ACS evaluation it's considering my experience (current experience excluded) as 3.9 Years and it's in the same ANZSCO category i.e Software Engineer 261313.
As far as I am aware, dependent's work experience adds no value and I can claim 5 points with my current ACS (IELTS already done) ?
Also if my current experience is not considered, it will not have any impact on my overall application ?
If it is positive and you will be secondary applicant, then you are good to go
 
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2018-08-02
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189/190
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2018-11-11
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2018-11-11
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2018-12-22
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2019-03-27
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2019-02-23
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2019-02-18
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2019-06-03
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2020-02-20

King M

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That's correct!!

Because Software engineer falls in the category of MTSOL and Tester in STSOL, means both occupations do not fall under same SOL.

Hence, you will get 5 points only for 190 and not for 189
I'm confused about this. Understand that software engineer and software tester are from different skilled occupation list. But, why the additional partner skill points still being added to 190? According to the link below, partner skill should be in the same list as the main applicant.

 

mohsinciddiki

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2018-12-22
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I'm confused about this. Understand that software engineer and software tester are from different skilled occupation list. But, why the additional partner skill points still being added to 190? According to the link below, partner skill should be in the same list as the main applicant.

EOi is an independent system which does not check any verification or validity. so it is better to check yourself as those regulations are only for visa officers to be verified
 
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2018-08-02
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2018-11-11
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2018-11-11
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2019-03-27
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_Popeye_

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So after reading all the topics on the matter here on MD, I am still confused about claiming partner points.
Only thing that is clear is that both applicant and partner need to be on MLTSSL for visa 189.
However, I am on the MLTSSL list code 263111, while my partner is on STSOL.

If ACS gives positive assessment, we will be applying for visa 190.
In the VIC SOL (state occupation list) only my occupation is present, but not my partner's.
Can i still claim the extra 5 partner points ?

Cheers.
 

_Popeye_

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So after reading all the topics on the matter here on MD, I am still confused about claiming partner points.
Only thing that is clear is that both applicant and partner need to be on MLTSSL for visa 189.
However, I am on the MLTSSL list code 263111, while my partner is on STSOL.

If ACS gives positive assessment, we will be applying for visa 190.
In the VIC SOL (state occupation list) only my occupation is present, but not my partner's.
Can i still claim the extra 5 partner points ?

Cheers.
Just to add both our occupations are eligible for "190 - Skilled Nominated (subclass 190)" as per :

 

mohsinciddiki

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2018-12-22
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2019-02-18
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2020-02-20
So after reading all the topics on the matter here on MD, I am still confused about claiming partner points.
Only thing that is clear is that both applicant and partner need to be on MLTSSL for visa 189.
However, I am on the MLTSSL list code 263111, while my partner is on STSOL.

If ACS gives positive assessment, we will be applying for visa 190.
In the VIC SOL (state occupation list) only my occupation is present, but not my partner's.
Can i still claim the extra 5 partner points ?

Cheers.
Do you just want to claim 5 points? that you can do with language scores also. I believe you can claim partners point if both occupations are in the combined list for 189, but not for 190
 
MSA
2018-08-02
Skill
261111
SC
189/190
Point
75/80
EOI
2018-08-17
Nom.
2018-11-11
Inv.
2018-11-11
App.
2018-12-22
CO
2019-03-27
PCC
2019-02-23
HC
2019-02-18
Grant
2019-06-03
IED
2020-02-20

_Popeye_

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Do you just want to claim 5 points? that you can do with language scores also. I believe you can claim partners point if both occupations are in the combined list for 189, but not for 190
Well ideally we want to claim 10 points.
After reading this topic and this one https://www.migrationdesk.com/threads/partner-skills-190-mltssl-and-stsol.44624/
i got the impression that in my case we can claim 10 points.

Since according to HomeAffairs:

Computer Network and Systems Engineer 263111 MLTSSL
186 - Employer Nomination Scheme visa (subclass 186)
189 - Skilled Independent (subclass 189) - Points-Tested
190 - Skilled Nominated (subclass 190)
407 - Training visa (subclass 407)
485 - Temporary Graduate (subclass 485) - Graduate Work
489 - Skilled Regional (Provisional) visa (subclass 489) - Family sponsored
489 - Skilled Regional (Provisional) visa (subclass 489) - State or Territory nominated
482 - Temporary Skill Shortage (subclass 482) – Medium Term Stream
187 - Regional Sponsor Migration Scheme (subclass 187)
494 - Skilled Employer Sponsored Regional (provisional) (subclass 494) - Employer sponsored stream
491 - Skilled Work Regional (provisional) visa (subclass 491) State or Territory nominated
491 - Skilled Work Regional (provisional) visa (subclass 491) Family Sponsored

And partner's:

Industrial Pharmacist 251512 STSOL
190 - Skilled Nominated (subclass 190)

407 - Training visa (subclass 407)
489 - Skilled Regional (Provisional) visa (subclass 489) - State or Territory nominated
482 - Temporary Skill Shortage visa (subclass 482) - Short Term Stream
187 - Regional Sponsor Migration Scheme (subclass 187)
494 - Skilled Employer Sponsored Regional (provisional) (subclass 494) - Employer sponsored stream
491 - Skilled Work Regional (provisional) visa (subclass 491) State or Territory nominated

"I believe you can claim partners point if both occupations are in the combined list for 189, but not for 190 " not sure i understand this
 
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