ICT professionals assessment

[Phateema]

My question is, I have 3-year of MBIT degree with total 29 subjects out of which 8 subjects are of IT. Does my Master degree fall under ICT Minor? I am not able to understand the below statements of ACS guideline. Can somebody help?


According to ACS, a Bachelor or higher qualification is assessed as a Minor when the ICT content is at least two thirds of
the requirements for a major.
ICT Major are:
A post graduate qualification (Graduate Diploma or Masters) that do not require a Bachelor with an ICT
major for entry into the course, must have:
• A minimum of 3 semesters or at least 1.5 years of full-time study
• At least 2 semesters or 1 year of full-time equivalent ICT content
• A minimum of 12 units or subjects (overseas degrees may contain less units or subjects)
• 50% ICT content for a 2 year Graduate Diploma or Masters qualification
• 33% ICT content for a 3 year Graduate Diploma or Masters qualification
A post graduate qualification (Graduate Diploma, Masters or Doctoral qualification) that requires at least a
Bachelor qualification with a major in ICT for entry into the course, must have ICT content of at least
33%, all of which must be at post graduate level.

 

[MysticRiver]

If MBIT is a masters degree, it'll require 22% ICT content to be considered as ICT minor irrespective of whether it required a bachelor or not (33% for ICT major, as states above).

However, only a subject count will not be enough, your content needs to be at least 22% of the total course (as subjects can have different credit hours).

 

[Phateema]

If MBIT is a masters degree, it'll require 22% ICT content to be considered as ICT minor irrespective of whether it required a bachelor or not (33% for ICT major, as states above).

However, only a subject count will not be enough, your content needs to be at least 22% of the total course (as subjects can have different credit hours).

So, the total credit hours of degree are 91 out of which 31 are IT related. This makes 34%. Does it make the degree ICT Minor?

Btw, specialization area is Marketing.

 

[MysticRiver]

As per ACS (the quote you added before), 33% means ICT major, right? ACS will take the final decision, but it seems like you'll get at least an ICT minor, maybe even an ICT major.

 

[Phateema]

As per ACS (the quote you added before), 33% means ICT major, right?

Yes. I copied and pasted it from ACS guidelines.

ACS will take the final decision, but it seems like you'll get at least an ICT minor, maybe even an ICT major.

Great. One more thing, they have mentioned four eligibility criteria of degree i.e.
• A minimum of 3 semesters or at least 1.5 years of full-time study
• At least 2 semesters or 1 year of full-time equivalent ICT content
• A minimum of 12 units or subjects (overseas degrees may contain less units or subjects)
• 50% ICT content for a 2 year Graduate Diploma or Masters qualification
• 33% ICT content for a 3 year Graduate Diploma or Masters qualification

Do we need to fulfill all of them or any one of them?

 

[MysticRiver]

Yes. I copied and pasted it from ACS guidelines.

Yes, I know, and that's correct. Also, the rule is described here.

Any one of them

Any one of them.

 

[Phateema]

Yes, I know, and that's correct. Also, the rule is described here.

Any one of them.

Thank you. Another question, I'm sorry for asking so many questions. :| According to ACS, Analyst Programmer is defined as following and have mentioned closely related units/subjects too. Do the degree has to have all of these subjects or any of them?

261311 - Analyst Programmer Analyses user needs, produces requirements documentation and system plans, and encodes, tests, debugs, maintains and documents programs and applications.

Description of Closely Related Core ICT Units:
• Algorithm design and development
• Compilers - (Compiler Construction, Compiler Theory)
• Data structures
• Formal languages - (Formal Methods, Functional Programming)
• Human Computer Interaction
• Object Oriented Programming
• Operating systems - (Unix, Linux, Xenix, Network OS)
• Programming - (C, C++, Objective C, Visual C, Basic, Visual Basic, Java, Assembler, Cobol, Pascal, PL/1, Fortran, PHP, Pearl, AS3, FoxPro, and similar)
• Software Engineering
• Systems Programming
• Testing strategies and methods - (Software Testing)

Description of Additional Closely Related ICT Units:
• Artificial intelligence
• Automata theory
• Business Information Systems
• Computer Science
• Critical Path Method
• Database design, Database implementation
• Database Management Systems - (Relational Database, Object Oriented Database, RDBMS)
• Expert Systems
• File Processing
• Information Systems
• Introduction to ICT - (Introduction to Computer Science, Computer Theory, Introduction to Business Computing, Computer Science I)
• Introduction to Information Systems
• Management Information Systems
• Object Oriented Systems Analysis and Design
• Object Oriented technologies
• Project Management
• Quality management - (Quality Assurance, Software Quality)
• Requirements gathering
• Software validation - (Software Testing)
• Structure of languages
• Systems Analysis and Design
• Telematics
• User Requirements Definition
• Web Engineering - (Web Design, Internet Engineering)

 

[Rakshanda]

According to ACS, Analyst Programmer is defined as following and have mentioned closely related units/subjects too. Do the degree has to have all of these subjects or any of them?

Closely related means, any of these. @Phateema can you please confirm if your MBIT is from which institute? I might have an idea simply how ACS will consider it.

 

[MysticRiver]

ACS will decide if your degree is closely related to your occupation or not. It is not mandatory for your occupation to be closely related. If your degree is NON closely related to your nominated occupation (but an ICT major), ACS will deduct 4 years, if it is closely related, then ACS will deduct 2 years. Details here
https://www.migrationdesk.com/threa...riteria-year-deduction-from-experience.41529/

 

[Phateema]

Closely related means, any of these. @Phateema can you please confirm if your MBIT is from which institute? I might have an idea simply how ACS will consider it.

It's from the University of Punjab.

 

[Rakshanda]

It's from the University of Punjab.

A government University probably, from Pakistan? I am dead sure you will be assessed positively for your education. Let me know the results.

 

[Phateema]

A government University probably, from Pakistan? I am dead sure you will be assessed positively for your education. Let me know the results.

Yes, it's a government university in Pakistan (Higher Education Commission recognized)

 

[Rakshanda]

Yes, it's a government university in Pakistan (Higher Education Commission recognized)

Got it, mostly DIBP check things online, thats my understanding. There's nothing like this written by the books. So I am sure there's a record of your degree in HEC. Hence it will be assessed positively and the other topic stays there about the relevant subjects.

 

[Phateema]

This paragraph is mentioned in the ACS guideline, can anybody please explain that in simple words:

Only employment completed after the date you have met the ACS suitability criteria will be counted as Skilled Employment and eligible for migration points. Work experience used to meet the suitability criteria is NOT counted as Skilled Employment and NOT eligible for migration points.

 

[MysticRiver]

ACS will deduct some part of your experience to meet so called "suitability criteria" and you cannot claim any point for that part, even if that experience was relevant. The amount of deduction can be 2-8 years depending on your qualification (again, referring to the same post as I did before, twice). For example, if you have an ICT major Bachelor degree or equivalent which is relevant to your nominated occupation, ACS will deduct 2 years of relevant experience, e.g. if you have 6 years of relevant experience, you will only be able to claim points for 4 years.

 

[Phateema]

ACS will deduct some part of your experience to meet so called "suitability criteria" and you cannot claim any point for that part, even if that experience was relevant. The amount of deduction can be 2-8 years depending on your qualification (again, referring to the same post as I did before, twice). For example, if you have an ICT major Bachelor degree or equivalent which is relevant to your nominated occupation, ACS will deduct 2 years of relevant experience, e.g. if you have 6 years of relevant experience, you will only be able to claim points for 4 years.

Thank you.

 

[Phateema]

A master's degree completed precisely in 2 years 10 months (starting date: Oct 2007, ending date: Jul 2010) will be considered as a 3-year degree or 2-year?

 

[MysticRiver]

That's an interesting question, I am not entirely sure what to say. I am tempted to say it as a 3-years program because I think the duration of a degree is what your institution designed it to be, not how long it takes you to finish it. But you can check it with ACS as well.

 

[Phateema]

That's an interesting question, I am not entirely sure what to say. I am tempted to say it as a 3-years program because I think the duration of a degree is what your institution designed it to be, not how long it takes you to finish it. But you can check it with ACS as well.

I sent an email to them. They are unable to determine it before formal assessment.

 

[MysticRiver]

I sent an email to them. They are unable to determine it before formal assessment.

Hmm, that's their most common reply because they don't want to commit anything before looking into your documents.