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AUS Aspirant

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Dear All,

I have few clarifications while trying to lodge visa application for 189 Visa class.

Request 1:
There was a question related - Non-migrating members of the family unit
Does the applicant have any members of their family unit not travelling to Australia who are not Australian citizens or Australian permanent residents? YES / NO
I chose YES.
Now, Whom to include in the non-migrating members of the family unit?
I am staying with my spouse and daughter in Singapore for more than 6 years. My parents and parents-in-law are staying in India. Should I include them as non-migrating family members? Pls scroll below after Request 5 to know what is non-migrating member as defined by Australian Immigration

Request 2:
In Step 12 of Step 17 for Visa lodging, there is a question which asks as follows:
Has the applicant completed, or is currently enrolled in, any studies at secondary level or above? YES / NO

I chose YES. Is it enough if I just specify my bachelors and masters degree or should I specify my high school also?

Request 3:
There was one question related to Australian Study Requirement as follows:
Does the applicant meet the Australian study requirements for the Skilled Migrations points test? YES / NO
I chose NO. When I looked at the help, it says that one must have studied in Australia to choose YES, so I choose NO. But just thought of getting a confirmation from experts in this forum

Request 4:
In Step 13 of Step 17, there was one question
Employment history -
Has the applicant been employed during the 10 year period before their invitation to lodge this application? YES / NO
I chose YES, but should I represent last 10 years employment history or from my career start which is more than 10 years?

Request 5:
Previous countries of residence - Have any of the applicants lived in a country other than the primary applicant's usual country of residence? YES/NO

A) I am the primary applicant and I am staying in Singapore for the last 6 years, so my usual country of residence is Singapore, is that Correct?
B) I listed all the other countries other than my usual country of residence (i.e Singapore) along with the last stayed address in those countries such as USA, Canada, India where I lived. Is that Correct?
c) I repeated step B for my spouse as well as my spouse name is also appearing as one of the applicant in the dropdown. Filled the same address as mine along with the same period of stay. Is that correct?
D) Finally, my parents and parents-in-law name are also appearing in the dropdown list and I mentioned their India address along with the period of stay as India is different from PRIMARY APPLICANTS USUAL COUNTRY OF RESIDENCE i.e Singapore Is that correct?

Would be glad to have your responses? Once I get answers for these 5 request, i would be able to lodge my application and the entire credit goes to migrationdesk.com especially to persons like @MysticRiver and all others who responded patiently

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I have pasted the help information provided by Australian Immigration on Non-migrating members of the family unit as below?
Non-migrating members of the family unit
Include any member of your family unit who would normally be included in this application but who does not require a visa. This member of your family unit may not be migrating to Australia or they may hold Australian citizenship.

There are further questions on the partner visa forms to gather information about the applicant's extended family members.

In some circumstances, this member of the family unit will be required to undergo health and character clearances.

This member of your family unit may wish to migrate later but must be aware that they will need to meet visa eligibility requirements in their own right at that time unless they meet visa requirements as part of this application and can travel within the validity of the visa.

A family member who already holds a valid visa or Australian Citizenship who may be travelling to Australia for residence with the family unit will not need to be included in the family migration application. However, they should be recorded as non-migrating members of your family unit.

Note: If this non-migrating member of your family unit does not hold a passport then enter their name and date of birth but leave the passport details questions blank
 
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MysticRiver

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Now, Whom to include in the non-migrating members of the family unit?
I am staying with my spouse and daughter in Singapore for more than 6 years. My parents and parents-in-law are staying in India. Should I include them as non-migrating family members? Pls scroll below after Request 5 to know what is non-migrating member as defined by Australian Immigration
In the changed rule, Family unit = partner and children only. Check the link below:
https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/Migrationagents/Pages/member-of-family-unit.aspx

A further discussion was made here
https://www.migrationdesk.com/threads/non-migrating-memebers-of-family-unit.42882/#post-55838

In Step 12 of Step 17 for Visa lodging, there is a question which asks as follows:
Has the applicant completed, or is currently enrolled in, any studies at secondary level or above? YES / NO

I chose YES. Is it enough if I just specify my bachelors and masters degree or should I specify my high school also?
Include secondary education as well, as asked.

Does the applicant meet the Australian study requirements for the Skilled Migrations points test? YES / NO
I chose NO. When I looked at the help, it says that one must have studied in Australia to choose YES, so I choose NO. But just thought of getting a confirmation from experts in this forum
Correct

In Step 13 of Step 17, there was one question
Employment history -
Has the applicant been employed during the 10 year period before their invitation to lodge this application? YES / NO
I chose YES, but should I represent last 10 years employment history or from my career start which is more than 10 years?
At this point, 10 years is enough.

I am the primary applicant and I am staying in Singapore for the last 6 years, so my usual country of residence is Singapore, is that Correct?

I listed all the other countries other than my usual country of residence (i.e Singapore) along with the last stayed address in those countries such as USA, Canada, India where I lived. Is that Correct?

I repeated step B for my spouse as well as my spouse name is also appearing as one of the applicant in the dropdown. Filled the same address as mine along with the same period of stay. Is that correct?

Yes

Finally, my parents and parents-in-law name are also appearing in the dropdown list and I mentioned their India address along with the period of stay as India is different from PRIMARY APPLICANTS USUAL COUNTRY OF RESIDENCE i.e Singapore Is that correct?
They are in the list because you declare them as non-migrating family unit member. But as per the new law (as I linked above), they are not your family unit member. If you remove them, their name will disappear from the drop-down.
 

AUS Aspirant

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@MysticRiver Thank you so much for your prompt response.
If I am trying to submit the invite on my own, its because of your response with clarity.
 

Ramandeep

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Hi everyone,
Well I have filed my visa application a month ago. But now I came to know that members of the family unit includes just your wife and children but not parents.
In my application I have included my parents in members of the family unit.
My question is -
Should I try to remove them from the application?
Will keeping them added there have any bad effect on my application?
If they are added, will I have to get their health examination done..??
Any thoughts about this would be appreciated...
Thanks.
 
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2019-09-24

JanithaR

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Hi everyone,
Well I have filed my visa application a month ago. But now I came to know that members of the family unit includes just your wife and children but not parents.
In my application I have included my parents in members of the family unit.
My question is -
Should I try to remove them from the application?
Will keeping them added there have any bad effect on my application?
If they are added, will I have to get their health examination done..??
Any thoughts about this would be appreciated...
Thanks.
It was an honest mistake and could easily happen. There's an 'update us' button in your visa application and I suggest you update them via that upfront and be clear of the mistake you made. I doubt this would have any significant impact on your application.
 

Ramandeep

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It was an honest mistake and could easily happen. There's an 'update us' button in your visa application and I suggest you update them via that upfront and be clear of the mistake you made. I doubt this would have any significant impact on your application.
Thanks I will try to do that.
 
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Should I try to remove them from the application?
Most likely that won't be necessary as your CO should be aware of the rule and he/she should have made this correction. However, to avoid any late surprise where an inexperienced CO asks for medicals of your parents (migrating or non-migrating members, family unit members need to submit medical), you should use "Update Us" button as @JanithaR suggested, or submit Form 1023 to correct the answers.

Will keeping them added there has any bad effect on my application?
Should not impact your visa decision.
 

Ramandeep

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Most likely that won't be necessary as your CO should be aware of the rule and he/she should have made this correction. However, to avoid any late surprise where an inexperienced CO asks for medicals of your parents (migrating or non-migrating members, family unit members need to submit medical), you should use "Update Us" button as @JanithaR suggested, or submit Form 1023 to correct the answers.


Should not impact your visa decision.
Thank you very much @MysticRiver for the suggestions, I will surely update the file status there.
 
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mohsinciddiki

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Does the applicant have any members of their family unit not travelling to Australia who are not Australian citizens or Australian permanent residents?

I am 31 years old, single woman. Parents are in native place. Nobody is travelling with me. What should i choose? Yes or NO.
No
 
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Hi guys,
I and my wife are currently residing in Australia and applying for a subclass 820/801, my wife is an Australian permanent resident.
All of my side of the family is residing in the UK and are not planning to migrate to Australia.

So my question is, who do I list on the;

Migrating members of the family unit?

Non-migrating members of the family unit?

Applicant's Immediate Family Members?

Would really appreciate the help, thanks

Yussef zemrani
 

mohsinciddiki

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Hi guys,
I and my wife are currently residing in Australia and applying for a subclass 820/801, my wife is an Australian permanent resident.
All of my side of the family is residing in the UK and are not planning to migrate to Australia.

So my question is, who do I list on the;

Migrating members of the family unit?

Non-migrating members of the family unit?

Applicant's Immediate Family Members?

Would really appreciate the help, thanks

Yussef zemrani
If you are the only one in the application, all the answers should be N/A or None
 
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2020-02-20

haley

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Hi there,
I have just graduated after studying in Australia for the past four years on a student (subclass 500) visa. I am now applying for a graduate work study visa (485) and am wondering if I should include my non-accompanying family member, my fiance in my application. He is already in Australia under his own student visa (500). Would there be any benefit in including him on mine at this point? Is he considered an applicant on the application?
 

Clemente

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Hi there,
I have just graduated after studying in Australia for the past four years on a student (subclass 500) visa. I am now applying for a graduate work study visa (485) and am wondering if I should include my non-accompanying family member, my fiance in my application. He is already in Australia under his own student visa (500). Would there be any benefit in including him on mine at this point? Is he considered an applicant on the application?
It will cost you a bit more to include him, but it will probably be for the best as under the 485 Visa he will have full work rights if needed and also study rights. And if your 485 will expire after his Student Visa expires, then he will also have the benefit of having a longer Visa. But I'm guessing he will also apply for a 485 after he gradutes?
 

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Im applying for Partner Visa 820. I'm here Currently in Australia as a tourist. I have two kids in other country. The answer will be "yes" for non migrating family member and list down the names of my kids? Please help! Thank u
If they are not migrating, then it sounds right.
 

shailb

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Hi everyone,
i ve recently applied 190 visa from australia. i m and my partner, we re in 485 graduate TR visa. i do not have any children. All me n mine partners family are staying in Nepal.
i am so confused in one part
Does the applicant have any members of their family unit not travelling to Australia who are not Australian citizens or Australian permanent residents?
does if affect later for anyone frm my family to come Australia?
i chosed no and filed application.
is that right answer or i need to make some changes?
i wd appreciate if u cd give me a hint abt this.
 

MysticRiver

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Seems you are correct, member of family unit includes spouse and children.
 
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